Where Will SVG End Up?


Posted by integragreg apropos on Wed Jan 3rd, 2007 at 12:08:05 BST

SVG is a remarkable technology, and I'd really hate to see it become marginalized over time by lack of awareness and by the commercial interests of Microsoft and Adobe.

It seems to me that SVG has either not gotten appropriate recognition for its capabilities over the past 5-6 years, or that there is a lack of widespread adoption of it when compared to other technologies like Flash. When I look around at the status of various SVG design tools and viewers, it seems like a lot of companies have either slowed or stopped development. And with technologies like Microsoft's XAML coming on, I'm worried that SVG is going to get pushed out onto the fringe. It seems clear that Microsoft is about to enter the graphics world in a big way.

But who cares about Microsoft, right? What they're doing won't affect SVG. Well, to a certain extent that's true. But Adobe has purchased Macromedia and announced that it will discontinue the only SVG plug-in for Internet Explorer. So it looks like they are gearing up to go to war with Microsoft XAML in the vector graphics world, and my concern is that this may take the focus off SVG and possibly marginalize it over the next few years.

It is encouraging, however, that SVG support is still on the agenda for Firefox, and that Opera has relatively rich support as well. And Tiny SVG appears the be the only viable alternative for phone-based vector graphics. So hopefully, the Open Source community can continue to advance the technology while Adobe and Microsoft are fighting it out. But to do so, I think that SMIL animation must be put on the top of the development agenda in order to round out SVG browser support.

I only discovered SVG last year when we needed a vector graphics display technology for my company's application. SVG perfectly fit the bill and with its scripting support, I cannot understand why anyone would use Flash instead. Admittedly, I've only designed Flash on a few occasions, but its design tools seem to me to be very expensive; and it makes a great deal more sense to me to use a technology that is based upon a W3C standard rather than a proprietary one like Flash. Perhaps it is the past browser security issues and a lack of awareness about design tools that has prevented SVG from gaining wider acceptance.

In my opinion, it may have been a mistake to position SVG as a graphic design technology in the first place rather than a flexible, inexpensive presentation and development tool. I'm not a graphic designer, so I'm not really in touch with the trends in that industry. But there seems to be a lack of awareness about SVG among some graphic designers. Several of the ones that I know had never even heard of SVG when I asked them about it. And when I described it to them, most of them said that they would use Flash to accomplish what SVG does.

SVG's greatest value to me in my work as a software engineer is as a real time, easily-customizable, high-quality vector graphics rendering tool. I care very little about its graphic design capabilities; I leave that to the people who know how to do that best: graphic designers. As long as they give me a high-quality graphic, I'll render it in SVG in a way that fits my application scope.

Being a relatively new user, perhaps my observations are not well-founded. I welcome any opinions or comments.

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by tete on Fri Oct 19th, 2007 at 20:53:00 BST
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i totally agree with you

short term it's bad for scaring some people away, as they see SVG as the ASV format, a bit longer term it's good to change exactly that inaccurate understanding with great developments happening like for example the Opera SVG implementation

A small correction (none / 0) (#1)
by Antoine Quint on Wed Jan 3rd, 2007 at 13:14:32 BST
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The Adobe SVG Viewer will not be discontinued after all, Adobe decided to stop its development but not prevent people from downloading it.

... SVG just gets used. no fuss. Where before there was not too much news on SVG, it's now quite a job to keep up. Where before SVG was spelled out and explained, now often it's just the acronym mentioned. It's pretty mainstream with coders nowadays, others start following. Check my svg.org diary, it has some good thoughts on the matter. And browse yourself crazy starting from http://svg.startpagina.nl to get an idea of what's all out there. Cooperation of coders and clickers is not optimal, but expect change on that too. Enjoy checking out all the links.

  • I Agree by integragreg, 01/14/2007 04:43:25 BST (none / 0)
Thank you! (none / 0) (#7)
by chausstran on Wed Jul 18th, 2007 at 15:31:33 BST
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Thanks for the very interesting article, i agree!

More money, more profits....sad but true. (none / 0) (#8)
by drew27 on Tue Sep 11th, 2007 at 14:23:11 BST
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SVG is brilliant, I think its awful that the huge companies are pushing their own products. But the thats what it comes down too, the good old boys club, patting each others back sometimes. I think as long as there is a community support for SVG it will survive. Thank you, Drew

Over looked (none / 0) (#10)
by dhw (dhwilson@breathe.com) on Fri Sep 14th, 2007 at 11:46:37 BST
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Over looked and under utilised

SVG (none / 0) (#12)
by GuidoM on Mon Sep 17th, 2007 at 17:58:01 BST
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It´s a shame that Adobe stopped the development, but maybe it is getting open source software...

End Up (none / 0) (#13)
by Artem (kostval@yahoo.com) on Thu Sep 20th, 2007 at 21:05:32 BST
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Why does it end up? Everything is fine Artem Belinskiy http://www.earnexperience.com

Flash as competition (none / 0) (#15)
by ADAC on Mon Sep 24th, 2007 at 15:39:17 BST
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I agree with your comment "I cannot understand why anyone would use Flash instead" if you are running an application "in house" where you can control which browser is being used, or at least be sure that the proper downloads have be done so that the graphic can be seen properly. Flash has the major advantage of being well enough known that most people have browsers that will render the graphics properly. Which is too bad, there are many applications where SVG would do a far superior job to Flash. Top Website Tips | Sacramento Used Cars

interesting (none / 0) (#25)
by Felsefe (info@anarsist.org) on Sun Sep 30th, 2007 at 06:58:28 BST
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looks very interesting!

bonjour (none / 0) (#27)
by pron1ck on Mon Oct 8th, 2007 at 07:19:48 BST
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Thanks (none / 0) (#29)
by domd2u (info at zonesalad.cz) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 15:48:33 BST
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Hello, thanks for an article. Im new to SVG so everz bit and piece helps...:) Dominik

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